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	\|Has Description=Composed ten years after the publication of Francis Kirkman's ''History of Prince Erastus'', the second English version of the ''Erastus'' story was printed by Dorman Newman and Benjamin Alsop in London in 1684, titled 'Erastus: Or, The Roman Prince; Being A more full Account of that Famous History of the Seven Wise Masters, With Many Pleasant Additions of Excellent, and Divertive Discourses, and Songs, not unsuitable to the Design of the Story'.		\|Has Description=Composed ten years after the publication of Francis Kirkman's ''History of Prince Erastus'', the second English version of the ''Erastus'' story was printed by Dorman Newman and Benjamin Alsop in London in 1684, titled ''Erastus: Or, The Roman Prince; Being A more full Account of that Famous History of the Seven Wise Masters, With Many Pleasant Additions of Excellent, and Divertive Discourses, and Songs, not unsuitable to the Design of the Story''.

	The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne out in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride ~~and~~ his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.		The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne out in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride, his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.

	While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. (Note: Francis Kirkman's text includes Puteus after the story told by Enoscopus - [[Zelus]] - rather than alongside Inclusa, as here.) After Philantropus' double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text. ~~''<nowiki/>'~~''Erastus, or, The Roman Prince' thus begins with a version of the ''Erasto'' text - presumably Kirkman's, given the parallel story replacements - but radically departs from the form in the second half of the text.		While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. (Note: Francis Kirkman's text includes Puteus after the story told by Enoscopus - [[Zelus]] - rather than alongside Inclusa, as here.) After Philantropus' double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text. ''Erastus, or, The Roman Prince'' thus begins with a version of the ''Erasto'' text - presumably Kirkman's, given the parallel story replacements - but radically departs from the form in the second half of the text.
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	\|Has Description=Composed ten years after the publication of Francis Kirkman's ''History of Prince Erastus'', the second English version of the ''Erastus'' story was printed by Dorman Newman and Benjamin Alsop in London in 1684, titled 'Erastus: Or, The Roman Prince; Being A more full Account of that Famous History of the Seven Wise Masters, With Many Pleasant Additions of Excellent, and Divertive Discourses, and Songs, not unsuitable to the Design of the Story'.		\|Has Description=Composed ten years after the publication of Francis Kirkman's ''History of Prince Erastus'', the second English version of the ''Erastus'' story was printed by Dorman Newman and Benjamin Alsop in London in 1684, titled 'Erastus: Or, The Roman Prince; Being A more full Account of that Famous History of the Seven Wise Masters, With Many Pleasant Additions of Excellent, and Divertive Discourses, and Songs, not unsuitable to the Design of the Story'.

	The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne ~~our~~ in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.		The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne out in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.

	While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. (Note: Francis Kirkman's text includes Puteus after the story told by Enoscopus - [[Zelus]] - rather than alongside Inclusa, as here.) After Philantropus' double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text. ''<nowiki/>'''Erastus, or, The Roman Prince' thus begins with a version of the ''Erasto'' text - presumably Kirkman's, given the parallel story replacements - but radically departs from the form in the second half of the text.		While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. (Note: Francis Kirkman's text includes Puteus after the story told by Enoscopus - [[Zelus]] - rather than alongside Inclusa, as here.) After Philantropus' double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text. ''<nowiki/>'''Erastus, or, The Roman Prince' thus begins with a version of the ''Erasto'' text - presumably Kirkman's, given the parallel story replacements - but radically departs from the form in the second half of the text.

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	The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne our in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.		The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne our in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.

	While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. After ~~this~~ double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text.		While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. (Note: Francis Kirkman's text includes Puteus after the story told by Enoscopus - [[Zelus]] - rather than alongside Inclusa, as here.) After Philantropus' double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text. ''<nowiki/>'''Erastus, or, The Roman Prince' thus begins with a version of the ''Erasto'' text - presumably Kirkman's, given the parallel story replacements - but radically departs from the form in the second half of the text.
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	The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne our in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.		The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne our in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.

	While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; ~~in this case~~, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. After this double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. ~~As in~~ Kirkman's version~~, in which~~ the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated ~~here~~, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent ~~here~~.		While some elements are added, however, the main body of the ''Seven Sages'' narrative is abbreviated, and the stories of several sages are omitted. The first nine stories nearly follow the usual pattern for ''Erasto'' texts, with the sole exception that, as in [[Francis Kirkman, Prince Erastus\|Francis Kirkman's version]], the story [[Puteus]] is here re-inserted into the embedded story order. In this case, however, there is no voice of a narrator inserting themselves into the text to equivocate about the original version of the story; instead, the sage Philantropus simply tells ''both'' his usual story - [[Inclusa]] - and also Puteus. After this double-barrel narrative, the Empress threatens to return to her parents' home rather than tell a story, and the final tale is then related by the sage Lencus. In Kirkman's version the ''Erasto'' story [[Caepulla]] was followed by [[Vidua]] as its alternative; here, the replacement of the two tales is fully integrated, and Vidua takes Caepulla's place and is the final story told. [[Roma]], [[Corpus Delicti]], [[Virgilius]], [[Puer Adoptatus]], and [[Vaticinium]] are also absent in this text.

	~~Medicus - son of an Irish man~~
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-Medicus - son of an Irish man
+The 'Pleasant Additions' promised by the title are borne our in the inclusion of verses and songs - typically antifeminist, and not always clearly fitted to the plot - at several points in the narrative, including from the priest in [[Tentamina]] to the young bride and his would-be-lover (reportedly accompanied by a guitar!). Like other ''Erasto'' texts, this narrative also priviledges the frame story and the life of its protagonist, which it extends beyond the usual conclusion of the text. The narrative contains several long additional episodes that follow the main plot, including "The War of the Emperour ''Erastus'' with King ''Siwel,'' the manner of his Overthrow", and another chapter detailing the fate of the empire after these events.
-"NOw fye upon him: What is Man,
+Medicus - son of an Irish man
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