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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:44, 16 February 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Inset Story</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Inset Story</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Has Short Description=Fate</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Has Critical Literature=Nishimura (2001); Clouston (1884); Chauvin (1892-1922)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|Has Summary=&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot;&gt;The king of Kashmir had an excellent minister, and a son was born to him. When the king asked astrologers to look at the boy’s fortune, all agreed that he would live a long life and be useful to the kingdom, but that at the age of fifteen he would take for himself, without permission, certain things in his father’s house. The king is astonished at the strange fortune, but decides to wait for the right moment. The minister assigns a teacher to educate the son in every possible way. The father decides to present his son to the king and tells him about it. The son decides that he must give the king a gift to show his respect, so he gives the gardener a handkerchief and asks him to make a bouquet out of all the flowers in the garden. His father sees the act but keeps quiet. The king takes the bouquet as a good omen and gives him a splendid outfit. When the king talks about the fortune-telling, the minister tells the king what happened. The king is surprised and says that human beings can’t go against their destiny.&lt;/span&gt;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|Has Summary=&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot;&gt;The king of Kashmir had an excellent minister, and a son was born to him. When the king asked astrologers to look at the boy’s fortune, all agreed that he would live a long life and be useful to the kingdom, but that at the age of fifteen he would take for himself, without permission, certain things in his father’s house. The king is astonished at the strange fortune, but decides to wait for the right moment. The minister assigns a teacher to educate the son in every possible way. The father decides to present his son to the king and tells him about it. The son decides that he must give the king a gift to show his respect, so he gives the gardener a handkerchief and asks him to make a bouquet out of all the flowers in the garden. His father sees the act but keeps quiet. The king takes the bouquet as a good omen and gives him a splendid outfit. When the king talks about the fortune-telling, the minister tells the king what happened. The king is surprised and says that human beings can’t go against their destiny.&lt;/span&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Entered by Bettina Bildhauer</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Entered by Bettina Bildhauer</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Has Note=Nishimura notes the following:</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''Motifs:''' TMI M359.10 Thievery a predestined lot. M370 Vain attempts to escape fulfillment of prophecy. </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''Analogies:''' ''Dai Shogon Ron-kyo'', 35 (''Taishozo'', 4, 290a~c). ''Kathasaritsagara'', ch. 72 ‘163D. How King Vinitamati became a Holy Man‘ (VI, pp. 82-83. Astrologer’s prediction. His father teaches law, but at length the son becomes a thief).</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''Reference stories''', '''etc.:''' The stories of the inevitable fulfilment of the prophecy are Babrius, ''Aesopic Fables'', 136, ‘The Force of Destiny’ = ''Aesop’s Fables'', 363, ‘The Boy and the pictured Lion’ = La Fontaine, ''Fables'', 8.16. ''Aesop’s Fables'', 162, ‘The Baby and the Crow’. ''Pentamerone'', 3.3 (fulfilment of the prophecy that the daughter will die because of bones). ''Grimm’s Fairy Tales'', KHM 50, ‘Dornröschen’ (Sleeping Beauty). ''Nihon Mukashibanashi Tsukan'', 28 ‘Type Index’, 148 ‘Luck Determination -- Married Couple’s Fate’, 149 ‘Luck Determination -- Luck of the Water’, and 151 ‘Luck Determination -- Fly on the Hatchet’. The rakugo tale ‘Koshin Decchi’ (a popular belief that a child conceived on the day of the 57th day of the sexagenary cycle will grow up to become a thief). In ''Golden Legend'', 14, ‘The Lord’s Reign’, p. 213, “It was the custom of ancient people to always bring a gift when they appeared before gods and kings”.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''Bibliography:''' Chauvin VIII35. Landau 40. W.A. Clouston, pp. 280-283. ''Nihon Mukashibanashi Tsukan'', ‘Kenkyuhen 2’, 148, 149, 151.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p>Created page with &quot;{{Inset Story |Has Summary=&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot;&gt;The king of Kashmir had an excellent minister, and a son was born to him. When the king asked astrologers to look at the boy’s fortune, all agreed that he would live a long life and be useful to the kingdom, but that at the age of fifteen he would take for himself, without permission, certain things in his father’s house. The king is astonished at the strange fortune, but decides to wait for the right moment. The minister...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>{{Inset Story<br /> |Has Summary=&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot;&gt;The king of Kashmir had an excellent minister, and a son was born to him. When the king asked astrologers to look at the boy’s fortune, all agreed that he would live a long life and be useful to the kingdom, but that at the age of fifteen he would take for himself, without permission, certain things in his father’s house. The king is astonished at the strange fortune, but decides to wait for the right moment. The minister assigns a teacher to educate the son in every possible way. The father decides to present his son to the king and tells him about it. The son decides that he must give the king a gift to show his respect, so he gives the gardener a handkerchief and asks him to make a bouquet out of all the flowers in the garden. His father sees the act but keeps quiet. The king takes the bouquet as a good omen and gives him a splendid outfit. When the king talks about the fortune-telling, the minister tells the king what happened. The king is surprised and says that human beings can’t go against their destiny.&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;span lang=&quot;EN-US&quot;&gt;[In Syntipas, the divination is that he will be a bandit. The night before he is taken to the king, he sneaks into the royal palace. The king notices, but keeps quiet. He sells the fine linen he stole and buys a gift for the king. When the king sees the minister&#039;s son, he knows it is the thief from last night.]&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> From Nishimura<br /> <br /> Entered by Bettina Bildhauer<br /> }}</div>

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